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Author:  lil sasami [ Sat Apr 03, 2004 12:06 am ]
Post subject:  Hair dye
I want to dye my hair blond. Like REALY light blond. But my hair is a dark brown and Im afraid the dye wont be strong enough and my hair will end up a mess.
Can anyone recomend a good brand?
P.s. Are you supose to dye your eyebrows too? :shock:
Author:  Brat Prince [ Sat Apr 03, 2004 7:08 am ]
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This reminds me of the hair product thread on the old forum.
So far I've bleeched my hair 3 times and this is the advice I can give you:
Ask the girls/guys working there which is the best product, for me it was a powder you mixed with peroxide.
If doing it yourself:
Test a small area of hair to see if the bleech burns your scalp or not.
You will need to do it up to 3 times, depending on how dark your hair is and how light you want it.
After the first application if your scalp doesn't burn or hurt do it again. I did it twice in one go and thought it best to leave it for a few days before I did another go incase my hair fell out from the final go, or incase my scalp burnt.
Don't forget to use a toner to get the orangey/copper colour out. I used Fudge's whiter shade of pale as a toner and also as my final white stage.

If you don't fell confident to do it yourself get a proffesional, although this may cost abit.

As for the eyebrows the products specifically say don't use it on eyebrows. I never have but that was because my hair was going back to normal(ish) after a few days of blonde/blue/whatever.
Once again ask the people working in the store or the hairdresser, you might need to go to a beautician.

Your hair will become straw like and dry so you might want to buy an appropriate conditioner. I thought the bleech would kill my curls but it didn't and my hair used to curl in the morning so I had to use alot of product to straighten it and keep it straight.
Good luck.
Author:  Mistress_of_Tales [ Sat Apr 03, 2004 10:06 am ]
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I took Beauty Care as a side subject in high school, because I needed two morw hours a week to reach the minimum limit. Don't remember much, but there was some stuff to bleach eyebrows with. You can do it yourself, but it is easier to have someone to help you. (Unless you are reaally good at navigating in a mirror.)
Author:  :{audiosonic}: [ Sat Apr 03, 2004 1:55 pm ]
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Get it done professionally. Seriously. I've never done a home-dye, and I never will. Too many horror stories.

:{as}: - Because I'm worth it.
Author:  The Lisa Faerie [ Sat Apr 03, 2004 1:59 pm ]
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My sister does mine, and, when I bleach, we have to do 3-4 goes of it. We generally do it all in one day because I'm a crazy scalp-masochist like that. Because my hair was so short and I put so much hair product in it, you couldn't tell that it was completely fried. I also used a really good conditioner, but I don't remember what it was, 'cuz I stole it from my sister.
Author:  ShibbyPandora [ Sun Apr 04, 2004 3:33 pm ]
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At the moment, and actually for the last three years, I've wanted to dye my hair blue. Who posted a picture a while ago (I'm not sure if it was here or at BmB) with sort of dark blue hair? Thats how I want mine.

But this involves not only me bleaching my hair at least once (Its half way between black and my natural hair colour-dirty blonde) but me quiting my current job, in a supermarket. Any suggestions as to a place one could work with blue hair and several (intended) piercings? lol

Most in wanting of Blue Hair... :roll:

-SP
Author:  :{audiosonic}: [ Sun Apr 04, 2004 6:29 pm ]
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I wanted blue hair once. Now I actually HAVE some hair (I didn't then really) I want it blond instead. But I wouldn't argue with a blue streak a la Colin :) it would match my eyes *pose* and my hat...

Places to work... hmm. A friend of mine got told to cut his long hair off for his job.

The irony was, he worked in a call centre.

o_O

Self-employment. It's the way forward!
Author:  The Lisa Faerie [ Mon Apr 05, 2004 12:42 am ]
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ShibbyPandora wrote:
At the moment, and actually for the last three years, I've wanted to dye my hair blue. Who posted a picture a while ago (I'm not sure if it was here or at BmB) with sort of dark blue hair? Thats how I want mine.

But this involves not only me bleaching my hair at least once (Its half way between black and my natural hair colour-dirty blonde) but me quiting my current job, in a supermarket. Any suggestions as to a place one could work with blue hair and several (intended) piercings? lol

Most in wanting of Blue Hair... :roll:

-SP


JoAnn's allows crazy hair and piercings ((usually. Some managers are anal.)). I know, as many of my coworkers are crazy-haired and pierced.

And old ladies rave about Lauren's blue streaks.
Author:  lil sasami [ Tue Apr 06, 2004 5:41 am ]
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Well I took your advice and I have an apointment at the "Sallon"
Friday... oh Im so nervous.
I decided that if I hate being a blond. I'll just dye it again and go little mermaid red.
I LOVE that color. 8)
Author:  Brat Prince [ Tue Apr 06, 2004 6:11 am ]
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lil sasami wrote:
I decided that if I hate being a blond. I'll just dye it again and go little mermaid red.
I LOVE that color. 8)


I had to put a red toner/rinse in my hair before going to black (ok a really dark blue) I did it at home and my hair looked like flames (with the blonde underneath and the roots then the darker red) I was going to keep it like that but had to go to the black because dad wanted to shave my head.
Author:  pixeechuu [ Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:37 pm ]
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Um... hi.

Going to a salon <B>is</b> the best choice--although there is never a guarantee that your hair will come out the way you want when you go from dark brown to "really blond."

I've put blond streaks in my hair before, and while they looked awesome, putting them on top of hair that had been dyed many times before really damaged my hair. Then adding a perm on top of THAT... well, all the streaked areas now have the stretchy consistency of the fake green grass you get in Easter baskets. Y'know, the kind you can pull and it just STRREEEEEEEEEETCHES until it suddenly snaps? Yep.

My recommendation? Never go superlight on your hair if you like healthy hair. 'Cuz you will be upset at yourself at the damage you've caused.

- Pchuu!
Author:  The Lisa Faerie [ Wed Apr 07, 2004 7:37 pm ]
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For reds, they have special conditioners that you can use. The conditioners have a bit of red color in them and help your hair hold the color.

But if your hair holds color anyway, use Thermasilk. Best conditioner ever, even if you don't use a blowdrier.
Author:  Sara H [ Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:04 am ]
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lil sasami wrote:
I decided that if I hate being a blond. I'll just dye it again and go little mermaid red.
I LOVE that color. 8)


Careful... putting red directly on really light blonde hair makes it so that it won't stick very well, and might be a lighter red than you wanted it to be. So if you're doing it yourself, make sure you leave the dye on for a long time and DEFINITELY buy the red conditioner. Biolage makes a red shampoo and conditioner too I think, but from what I've seen, Aveda is the best as far as price and amount that you get.

I reccomend Aveda's Madder Root conditioner for bright reds, and Aveda's Annato conditioner for dark reds (it's the color of blood-- so much fun!) There is a shampoo version of the Madder Root as well, and those in combination definitely make the hair color stick well. Sometimes it takes two rounds of dying it red for it really to take hold.

I speak from experience.... bleached out all the black in my hair last year (60 minutes of the super powerful blonding--- not reccomended unless you have insanely thick strong hair like I do) Then a buttload of the conditioner that came with it, then a few days later I did the bright red. But it turned orangey sooner than I wanted it to, so it took a couple of rounds to really get a color I liked. Right now I'm more in a dark red stage.

Contemplating going a burgundy route soon though. Not sure.
Author:  The Lisa Faerie [ Mon Apr 12, 2004 12:18 pm ]
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Sara H wrote:
lil sasami wrote:
I decided that if I hate being a blond. I'll just dye it again and go little mermaid red.
I LOVE that color. 8)


Careful... putting red directly on really light blonde hair makes it so that it won't stick very well, and might be a lighter red than you wanted it to be. So if you're doing it yourself, make sure you leave the dye on for a long time and DEFINITELY buy the red conditioner. Biolage makes a red shampoo and conditioner too I think, but from what I've seen, Aveda is the best as far as price and amount that you get.

I reccomend Aveda's Madder Root conditioner for bright reds, and Aveda's Annato conditioner for dark reds (it's the color of blood-- so much fun!) There is a shampoo version of the Madder Root as well, and those in combination definitely make the hair color stick well. Sometimes it takes two rounds of dying it red for it really to take hold.

I speak from experience.... bleached out all the black in my hair last year (60 minutes of the super powerful blonding--- not reccomended unless you have insanely thick strong hair like I do) Then a buttload of the conditioner that came with it, then a few days later I did the bright red. But it turned orangey sooner than I wanted it to, so it took a couple of rounds to really get a color I liked. Right now I'm more in a dark red stage.

Contemplating going a burgundy route soon though. Not sure.


My sister once bleached all the black out of her hair. i.e. her whole head.

... it took six hours of repeated bleachings.
Author:  EvilIlse [ Mon Apr 12, 2004 5:37 pm ]
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I recently dyed my hair red... as in firetruck red. It was kind of an accident, and I was very relieved when my boss at the courthouse said she liked it.

A couple of years back I dyed my hair blue, then went swimming. The dye reacted with the chlorine and my hair turned this ugly shade of green. Not pretty! I had to walk around with that colour for three weeks until I had enough money saved to go to the hairdresser's. Since that *incident* I'm all for dying your hair with the help of a professional. :P
Author:  Tancaliel [ Tue Apr 20, 2004 5:09 pm ]
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IMHO, going to a salon is only the best choice if you want to spend a lot of money on something you can do yourself a lot cheaper. Yes, I've heard horror stories about people dyeing their own hair, but I've heard at least an equal number of stories about salon employees seriously messing up people's hair trying to bleach it. Also, they use the same (if not stronger) sort of products, so it's not like it'll damage your hair less.

If you're going to do it yourself, you should get two ingredients to start with: bleach powder and peroxide. The peroxide comes in different strengths, ranging from 10vol to 50vol. The latter (and possibly the 40vol as well) isn't buyable without a cosmethologist's license, and you should let the professionals use those two, indeed. They're so strong they can cause chemical burns to your scalp if used improperly. I find that the 10vol, on the other hand, hardly does anything to my hair... so I advise you to use the 20 or 30vol peroxide solution. Then you need a package of bleach powder to go with it - these don't vary in strength afaik, just in brand. I've seen Wella Wellite recommended a lot, so that's what I use, but feel free to pick something else.

Next, you mix the powder and the developer in a non-metallic bowl. Use a 1:1 powder/developer ratio for a strong bleach mixture, and a 1:3 ratio for a more gentle bleach. The difference is that the first kind has to be used on your hair <i>only</i>, while it doesn't hurt (too much :p) to get the latter kind on your scalp. Regardless of which kind you use, you shouldn't leave it on for more than 30-40 minutes. After that, it doesn't lighten your hair much more, but it'll still keep damaging it.

If you've rinsed and washed your hair and find it's not light enough yet, don't bleach it again rightaway. Your hair's still so dead from the previous bleaching it won't even help that much (I speak from experience :p), and you'll <i>really</i> kill your hair. Wait at least a couple of days, preferably a week if you can stand your inbetween-colored hair that long - while using a good conditioner daily. Then bleach again. If it's still not light enough, repeat the waiting-conditioning-bleaching once more... you get the picture.

If your hair is light enough, but it's kinda yellowy, you can use a blonde dye/toner to make it a nicer shade. If you want white hair, that's also how you do it, except with a white toner instead of a blonde one. Don't just go bleach the hell out of your hair if you want it white, you'll fry it before you reach a pure white.


Speaking of eyebrows... yes, technically you can bleach them yourself of course. Just splash some of the same bleach/developer mixture on them you'd otherwise use on your hair. However, that bleach is quite fluid, and you <i>really</i> don't want it leaking into your eyes - it can cause blindness if it does. So I'd advise you to leave that to the professionals.
Author:  The Lisa Faerie [ Tue Apr 20, 2004 11:34 pm ]
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Now, the question:

I want to get hair extensions for prom.

Should I get the cornrow-braid-type or a fat box-weave?

I thought box-weave, but I'm doing only the top of my head, and it might come out funny in the back. With the cornrows, I'd have a bunch of two-inch long, 1-inch wide rows on the top and part of the back of my head, as my bottom layers wouldn't be able to braid well.

Also. White, Purple, or both? Those are the colors of my dress. Must post a picture... eventually ((no one home who can tie a corset)).
Author:  lil sasami [ Wed Apr 21, 2004 3:43 pm ]
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Well I did it!
My hair is now blond and about half of my brain cells left me. :( I shall miss them.
Now I can finally dye my hair the colors I want ^_^ *giggles*
Im just stuck on if I should get it done in Aqua (think Sasami from Tenchi Muyo) Or Little mermaid red...
So many choices.


Oh and Lisa, I always liked cornrows.
Author:  The Lisa Faerie [ Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:40 pm ]
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lil sasami wrote:
Well I did it!
My hair is now blond and about half of my brain cells left me. :( I shall miss them.
Now I can finally dye my hair the colors I want ^_^ *giggles*
Im just stuck on if I should get it done in Aqua (think Sasami from Tenchi Muyo) Or Little mermaid red...
So many choices.


Oh and Lisa, I always liked cornrows.


Yeah, I'm thinking that they'll be easier to deal with.

PLUS I can get it done before prom and wear a 'do-rag. If they tell me to take it off, I'll go to my principal and plead with him.

I'm like his third-favorite student, so I'm sure that he'll let me keep it just 'cuz it's my prom hair.
Author:  Sara H [ Fri Apr 23, 2004 11:33 pm ]
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lil sasami wrote:
Well I did it!
My hair is now blond and about half of my brain cells left me. :( I shall miss them.
Now I can finally dye my hair the colors I want ^_^ *giggles*
Im just stuck on if I should get it done in Aqua (think Sasami from Tenchi Muyo) Or Little mermaid red...
So many choices.


Oh and Lisa, I always liked cornrows.


just remember the colored-hair shampoo, in your specific color if you can get it! that way it won't fade as quickly!
Author:  The Lisa Faerie [ Sat May 01, 2004 12:37 pm ]
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Well, I've been informed that it would be at least $500 to do my hair, and I'd have to go to a specialist, and they'd have to use this crazy stuff in my hair that will ruin my current hair forever.

I'm simply too white to have braided extensions.
Author:  Theros [ Sat May 01, 2004 10:44 pm ]
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My hairstylist said I need to use conditioner.

And she trimmed off split ends and thinned the hair out with that whacky comb/scissor thing they have that pulls. ^_^;;
Author:  NotOutYet [ Sun May 02, 2004 7:36 am ]
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I have black hair now (cliche - yes, but it's an improvement)

It all started about three weeks ago when I finally bleached and colored streaks in my hair (fish bowl :points to previous post in this thread:) After about 5 days, I noticed that it had faded A LOT and so I redyed it. Same thing again. So I'm walking around school during class with sad, faded blue/green hair, when I see this girl with black and purple hair. The purple just really made me giddy inside ('cause of the obvious symbolism, and its our school color, how awesome is that?). So I asked her what it was (Purple Passion by Raw) and went and got some. My dad's girlfriend then helped me bleach essentially my whole head, which was dyed that glorious purple. Needless to say, I loved it. However, I didn't use color safe shampoo, and only two days later it had gotten considerably lighter. After five days I was sporting rainbow hair in the following colors: my natural brown, faded green, faded purple, and orange (not bleached enough because it was going to be covered in dye). That had to go, although I did have some positive comments.

Once again, my dad's gf helped my put the goop (permanent this time) in my hair to cover up all of the unitentionally fading glory of color use gone wild.

The moral of this story: always, always use protection (in the form of color-safe shampoo)

What Tanc said about salons is right, if you want to play it safe. I like dying my hair at home though, cause the process is half the fun.
And I'm cheap
Author:  The Lisa Faerie [ Sun May 02, 2004 12:57 pm ]
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Theros wrote:
My hairstylist said I need to use conditioner.

And she trimmed off split ends and thinned the hair out with that whacky comb/scissor thing they have that pulls. ^_^;;


Anyone with hair longer than 1.5 inches or so needs to use conditioner.

Hair thinning is good, as it gets rid of poofiness. Getting rid of split ends is good, 'cuz split ends are bad.

Yep. I love having my hair done.
Author:  ciaan [ Sun May 02, 2004 6:46 pm ]
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My hair's thin enough as is. No one better try to thin it out any more, ever.

I haven't tried any dye by Raw, but when I used Special Effects, it stayed in for ages. Unlike Manic Panic. That's for neato colors like purple. For more normal colors I've tried and liked Clairol Natural Instincts, especially the Exotics.

-ciaan
also, keep dyed hair away from chlorine.
Author:  :{audiosonic}: [ Sun May 02, 2004 9:34 pm ]
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I actually measured my hair the other day.

8 inches.

Just... thought I'd... share that.

<_<
Author:  Dragonbane [ Mon May 03, 2004 12:11 am ]
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I like my hair natural and short. :D
Author:  Sara H [ Mon May 03, 2004 3:54 am ]
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The Lisa Faerie wrote:
Well, I've been informed that it would be at least $500 to do my hair, and I'd have to go to a specialist, and they'd have to use this crazy stuff in my hair that will ruin my current hair forever.

I'm simply too white to have braided extensions.


This is a GREAT site for all things fake hair and extensions

It taught me how to put in the wool dread extensions I had awhile back. There's a whole section on braids as well.
Author:  Dark-Angel [ Sun Jul 18, 2004 12:29 am ]
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do it urself ... a decent colour stripper for hair will bring u to a very light blonde ... ( id go for clarol ) i dye my hair all the time ... mainly purple or bright red ... and never once has it gone wrong
Author:  SidheWhoIsTheShounen [ Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:05 am ]
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I know this is waaaaaay late, but...

Go to a beuaty supply store (SALLY or similar) and buy packets of bleach powder and 40 volume developer. It takes about an hour, give or take, for wmost people to acheive that ice-white everybody seems so fond of. And even if you are going to dye over it, it's worth it to make sure your hair lifts past the orange stage at LEAST to the yellow stage, or your colors won't last as long and they'll be all muddy and grosslike.
Author:  Michael [ Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:49 pm ]
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I've got really dark hair( as you can see in my avvy), would i be worht it to even TRY changin my hair colour?
Author:  jupiterjazz_jad [ Sun Sep 19, 2004 10:49 pm ]
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I posted a pic of my blue hair, but someone else did too, there's was alll blue.

Erm, I have dark borwn hair, and I used a powder mix with peroxide. It took one vair vair heavy coat of it and I left it on for over an hour, and my hair was pretty damn blonde.

I used semi permanent midnight blue hair dye, a Manic Panic product. My conditioner is Quantum Color Protecter from Sally's, anything at Sally's really is a good conditioner for colored hair. Oh, and clarifying shampoo helps keep the color bright.

Places that will hire krazzeee hair and piercings, well bookstores will, at least B&N and Borders. Erm, music stores most definately. Most places will, except for places where a lot of elderly go, because well, the elderly aren't fond of us weirdos now are they? I'd say HotTopic, but usually you need at least what? 15 piercing minimum, and change your hair every month, and have to deal with kids that would hate you at school and sell them stuff and rot.

-the Jacalyne
heh, how ironic I just dyed my hair again today because it was faded beyond aqua
Author:  Tancaliel [ Tue Sep 21, 2004 7:45 am ]
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Michael wrote:
I've got really dark hair( as you can see in my avvy), would i be worht it to even TRY changin my hair colour?


Depends. If you dyed your hair that color, you're going to have a hard time bleaching out the dye without frying your hair. If it's that color naturally -- especially if you've <i>never</i> colored your hair before or all colored hair has grown out by now, so you have what is called 'virgin hair' -- it shouldn't be too hard to bleach it to a fairly light color. Go to a Sally's if there's one near you -- otherwise, whatever cosmetics store you do have, and buy a packet of bleach powder and some 30 volume peroxide. Mix it into a creamy liquid (using once to thrice as much peroxide as powder, depending on how strong you want the bleach to be), cover your hair in it and let it sit there for 30-45 minutes. Or, ask a professional for advice if you don't dare doing it yourself.


If you're unfortunate enough to not have a Sally's or any other good store near you (like me -.-) you can order online through metrobeauty.com: <a href=http://www.metrobeauty.com/showitem.cfm?catnum=55&parentcatnum=0&itemnum=935>peroxide developer</a> ($1.99 per 16oz) and <a href=http://www.metrobeauty.com/showitem.cfm?catnum=55&parentcatnum=0&itemnum=936>bleach powder</a> ($1.99 per oz, or $10.99 for 16oz).
Author:  lilzilla [ Tue Sep 21, 2004 5:00 pm ]
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Hey, so since we're on the topic, I'm all, english, german and polish descent and my hair is annoyingly fine and thin and brittle and prone to frizzing all over the place. It's straight and long, so I tend to tie it back, but then it breaks at where I tie it, so I get shorter hairs from the side of my head that, on bad days, flop out and give my head wings.

Can you all recommend conditioners or anti-frizz things? I've tried some heavy-duty super-moisturizer conditioners, but they make my hair oily, which for some reason makes it more prone to breaking, and also makes it icky looking. I've used glycerine-based goo for anti-frizz, which works OK until it exacerbates the oiliness. And I've used gel-goo which also looks OK unless there's too much, but I think it makes my hair brittle.

Suggestions? Favorite products from others with fine, frizzy hair?
Author:  Tancaliel [ Tue Sep 21, 2004 7:42 pm ]
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My hair isn't fine nor frizzy, really. It <i>is</i> really dry due to all the bleaching though, which causes a little bit of frizz, and it's slightly curly. I really like Garnier Fructis Hydra-liss conditioner. It takes away the frizzyness, makes my hair go completely straight (as in not curly), and my hair gets really soft and silky and easy to comb (whereas it's breaking all over the place if I try to comb it without using conditioner). It's the best conditioner for my hair I've tried so far, although I don't know how well it works on hair that is naturally fine and frizzy. :)

Edit: I just remembered Fructis also has this product specifically designed to make frizzy hair go straight and silky, I think. I don't know what it's called exactly, but it's a sort of lotion you put in after showering, I think.

Edit again: I think this is the stuff I meant: Go to <a href=http://www.garnierfructis.com/>http://www.garnierfructis.com</a>, select Products > Shampoo and Conditioners, and choose New Sleek & Shine Weightless Anti-frizz Serum (what a mouthful) from the dropdown list. I've never used it myself, though. (I just discovered Sleek & Shine is actually the original series name for what we, for some inexplicable reason considering it's not even an actual word, call Hydra-liss.)
Author:  Michael [ Tue Sep 21, 2004 10:28 pm ]
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Tancaliel: Thanks! I'll see if my friend still wnats to do my ahir, hehehe. yes, i have "virgin hair" and as you can see, it naturally falls into big locks, but is is also prone to frizzyness :(
Author:  ciaan [ Sat Sep 25, 2004 3:44 pm ]
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The bestestestest shampoos and conditioners I've ever used have come from Lush. They have lovely shampoos called Rehab and Big, and a conditioner called Retread, and the Rehab shampoo is ace at fixing brittle and damaged stuff.

-ciaan
i think they're at www.lush.com or somesuch.
Author:  Brat Prince [ Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:58 am ]
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Liberty Spikes!
What's the best way to do them, best product to use and prefferd hair length? I want to do them for a concert next week and I'm pretty clueless about it.
I know about the old school methods of cornstarch and egg whites but I'm not prepared to do that
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